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Post by bucephalus92 on Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:21 pm

Hello fellow EZC soldiers, I recently had an idea and was hoping to get your opinion on it. Basically what I am envisioning is a temporary member swap between Easy Company and a foreign military unit. Heres what I think this would look like,
-Ten or so of of our members leave EZC and get cs in another country (with that country's permission)
-Ten or so members from a military unit in that country leave their MU and get cs in the US and join Easy Company
-Over the course of roughly a week we hold competitions geared towards building our relationship with the other country and military unit participating. The kinds of competitions I'm thinking of would be
random giveaways
article contests
damage contests
trivia contests
etc.

The purpose of this event would be to spur activity, build relationships between ourselves and our allies, meet some new people, and frankly just have a little fun.

If you are interested or have any questions just comment below, this is not a sure thing, I am just looking to get a general idea of whether there is interest or not.

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Post by yenchizzle on Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:25 pm

That sounds like a great idea. I'm not sure of the logistics behind it, but it seems feasible. Do you have any ideas on what country we would swap with? How about the language barrier?
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Post by bucephalus92 on Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:52 pm

Final decisions haven't been made regarding which country we will ask to participate with us, logistics also shouldn't be a problem. Do you have any suggestions for countries? My inclination is towards the UK as it would prevent the language barrier from being a problem.
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Post by Xhemshit_Smajli on Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:59 pm

Great idea.

It would serve the other MU more I believe on sharing the EZC culture and ideas, so only a historically friendly nation and MU should be considered.

As for the language that is a must and should be a criteria for selection, but I also believe that other nations can provide 10 English speaking members easily.

What about some traditional allies such as Croatia (more powerful MU's from which we also get some experience)?

I would also think about my own RL country (Albania + Kosovo) but we already have ~10 members originally coming from their MU's (including myself).
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Re: Military Unit Member Swap

Post by bucephalus92 on Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:06 pm

Honestly Albania was originally one of the first ones I thought of but as you said we already have so many Smile Croatia is also near the top of my list as well, thank you for sharing your opinion.
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Post by dead dreamer on Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:11 pm

Well not my kind of thing, but who likes it, why not.

Only thing I don't understand is with the new CS. Why? First I see a massive problem even to get 10 people simply a new CS. Second why the trouble anyway? You may have fewer ressources and you loose all your employees (and I myself needed long enough to gather good dependable people).
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Re: Military Unit Member Swap

Post by bucephalus92 on Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:17 pm

Perhaps it could be run without changing cs, though without cs it would be difficult for people to publish articles in their host country, though still doable. As I don't employ people I wasn't aware people would be forced to lose their workers due to a cs change. Depends on the response we get. If we don't get enough we can remove the cs change possibly. I wouldn't worry too much about actually acquiring the cs, 10 isn't that many compared to building positive relations.
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Re: Military Unit Member Swap

Post by ubuntu21 on Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:47 pm

Regarding the cs, I don't think this will work. As we have limited approvals of citizenship requests, Congress probably won't accept 10 people for a game like this. But as far as I know, you don't need to be a citizen of the country the MU is located in.

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Post by bucephalus92 on Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:55 pm

I've never been in congress, so I can't say whats feasible and what isn't in that regard, other congressman want to chime in?
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Post by ubuntu21 on Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:01 pm

Furthermore the IES won't agree with it. And without a IES approval, Congressmen aren't allowed to grant citizenship. As a result for not approved citizenship granting, the Congressman will be censored and can't apply for Congress again. See, it's a bit difficult^^

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Post by bucephalus92 on Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:04 pm

ubuntu21 wrote:Furthermore the IES won't agree with it. And without a IES approval, Congressmen aren't allowed to grant citizenship. As a result for not approved citizenship granting, the Congressman will be censored and can't apply for Congress again. See, it's a bit difficult^^

How can you be sure IES won't agree with it? I think there are plenty of congressmen that would see the benefit of this project that would be willing to help us. Of course we would need to bring it up to congress first.
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Re: Military Unit Member Swap

Post by Franklin Stone on Mon Mar 03, 2014 3:34 pm

bucephalus92 wrote:
ubuntu21 wrote:Furthermore the IES won't agree with it. And without a IES approval, Congressmen aren't allowed to grant citizenship. As a result for not approved citizenship granting, the Congressman will be censored and can't apply for Congress again. See, it's a bit difficult^^

How can you be sure IES won't agree with it? I think there are plenty of congressmen that would see the benefit of this project that would be willing to help us. Of course we would need to bring it up to congress first.

I would have to concur that Congress will shoot this down in a heartbeat, understandably they are stingy with the CS grants. If you don't need CS in order to be in the Foreign MU I see this as doable, even publishing in that country wouldn't be that hard. Also United Kingdom, Ireland or Australia; maybe Ireland and UK together and teach them how to work together. I think my pick would be Australia.

Ofc, get IES to agree and you don't need Congress....
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Re: Military Unit Member Swap

Post by yenchizzle on Mon Mar 03, 2014 3:43 pm

We have a ton of sitting congressmen. Plus an outgoing prez and hopefully Gnil will be the new Prez. I'm sure they can talk to congress and get this figured out. If we find ten serious people to do it, as well as a another country to agree.
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Re: Military Unit Member Swap

Post by dmjohnston on Mon Mar 03, 2014 3:50 pm

MUs are international now, so they wouldn't need US cit to be in EZC.
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Re: Military Unit Member Swap

Post by bucephalus92 on Mon Mar 03, 2014 4:12 pm

dmjohnston wrote:MUs are international now, so they wouldn't need US cit to be in EZC.

Indeed, it would be more of a symbolic gesture along with helping to get their articles published in the correct media for them. However we can easily get around that by having them publish in their home countries and having someone with US cs republish them here and link back to them.
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Post by Yipsee Fooks on Mon Mar 03, 2014 5:40 pm

They are stingy with cs's but I think they would see that there is nothing fishy here that would hurt the US.  We would just have to petition congress with the idea and I think they would agree.  Then again, I'm not in congress.  I guess there would have to be a lot of trust between the nations.  Meaning that when the operation is done that the parties in question would leave (on both sides)
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Post by mikeypenny on Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:02 pm

Id say congress would agree with this for relationship building purposes between countries if we can get notable players from another country (like poland) to come over here, and chill for a week or two.
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Post by bucephalus92 on Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:20 pm

I assume with the prez from the last two terms plus most likely Gnil we should be able to attract some notable players. I mostly want to make sure that their is interest from our side at this point, don't want to propose it then find we don't even have ten players interested.
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Post by Pfeiffer on Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:30 pm

Most of our 'notable' players are politicians. They can't, or won't, change citizenship.

There is no reason citizenship would need to change for an MU exchange.

Not that I particularly think an MU exchange is all that gangbusters.
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Re: Military Unit Member Swap

Post by bucephalus92 on Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:42 pm

Pfeiffer wrote:Most of our 'notable' players are politicians. They can't, or won't, change citizenship.

There is no reason citizenship would need to change for an MU exchange.

Not that I particularly think an MU exchange is all that gangbusters.

Fair enough, though I think its more fun than doing nothing.
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Post by Pfeiffer on Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:46 pm

bucephalus92 wrote:
Pfeiffer wrote:Most of our 'notable' players are politicians. They can't, or won't, change citizenship.

There is no reason citizenship would need to change for an MU exchange.

Not that I particularly think an MU exchange is all that gangbusters.

Fair enough, though I think its more fun than doing nothing.

I agree completely, I encourage people to poke around different MUs all the time. I've been in 10 or so over my time in eRep. I'm just not sure we need an organized swap like this, especially if you're talking about citizenship being involved.
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Re: Military Unit Member Swap

Post by bucephalus92 on Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:03 pm

Pfeiffer wrote:
bucephalus92 wrote:
Pfeiffer wrote:Most of our 'notable' players are politicians. They can't, or won't, change citizenship.

There is no reason citizenship would need to change for an MU exchange.

Not that I particularly think an MU exchange is all that gangbusters.

Fair enough, though I think its more fun than doing nothing.

I agree completely, I encourage people to poke around different MUs all the time. I've been in 10 or so over my time in eRep. I'm just not sure we need an organized swap like this, especially if you're talking about citizenship being involved.

Honestly I'm not involved in politics in this game so the feasibility of the cs swap was something I definitely wanted to get feedback on. based on what I'm hearing it seems like its not really worth the trouble, but I still think that providing an event like this could be fun, especially if there are enough people interested.
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Re: Military Unit Member Swap

Post by Oliver on Tue Mar 04, 2014 5:26 am

I can write article in polish press no problem..
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Re: Military Unit Member Swap

Post by Malarkey83 on Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:57 am

As the former IES Director and current Deputy Director, I wouldn't approve the swap of 10 cs passes for one MU to build relations with a foreign MU.  We have limited cs passes to begin with and using them for a purpose like this isn't above board to warrant the use of the cs passes.

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Post by Franklin Stone on Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:43 am

Since CS would not be involved I think some kind of Olympic Games or Intramural War Games with an MU from an allied country would be a lot of fun. The problem I see is that most D1 and lots of D2 and D3 soldiers would not want to take part in 'fighting' contest.
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